“I get it, and I can’t say that I disagree,” Whitlock replied, “but I’m just – aren’t you letting Joe Biden and a lot of other politicians, left and right, off the hook?”

“First of all, Joe Biden is not in charge of the government,” Jones responded. “It’s called Biden’s minyan — you can look this up too — there are 457 Jews who are running the Biden administration. They’re the people who are in charge, OK? So there’s no point in talking about Joe Biden. We have to be able to identify these people, and we have to call them out and hold them responsible.”

Jones went on to say that “the Blacks have suffered more in this regard than any other group in this country,” arguing that “the Jews took over the Blacks early on” by encouraging the Harlem Renaissance and the creation of the NAACP, which he said were intended to destroy Black nationalism.

“They got this guy, W.E.B. Dubois or Dubois or however you want to pronounce it, Harvard guy, and he was the front man,” Jones said. “The Jews had taken control of the Black population, they destroyed Black nationalism under Marcus Garvey, and then they created this plantation for Black people known as sexual liberation.”

Jones wrapped up his rant by claiming that basketball player Kyrie Irving and musician Ye (formerly Kanye West) had been unfairly persecuted for speaking out against Jewish control of the NBA and the music industry.

Whitlock’s expressions during Jones’ screed at times suggested that he found his comments stupid or beyond the pale. But after it concluded, he said, “Mr. Jones, you are fearless. You are fearless. My God,” adding that while he knows some people will criticize him for hosting Jones, “the man is speaking facts, and I know the intent of what he just said, and I got no problem with it.”

Whitlock acknowledged in the segment introducing the interview with Jones that “some of the audience is likely going to be offended by his conversation about Jews,” but said that he doesn’t believe in “silencing people” and mocked anyone who might criticize him for airing the discussion.

He initially promoted Jones’ comments about Jews on X (formerly Twitter) but deleted the post after it garnered attention.

Whitlock, in his introductory segment, also told viewers that Jones “is under attack by the Anti-Defamation League. He’s one of the first people to get canceled because of his writings.”

Indeed, the ADL describes Jones in an extensive report as “an anti-Semitic Catholic writer who promotes the view that Jews are dedicated to propagating and perpetrating attacks on the Catholic Church and moral standards, social stability, and political order throughout the world.” It says he “reaches for tenuous connections to paint ‘the Jews’ as inherently wicked and prone to colluding openly or secretly to threaten other populations around them” and “argues that mass killings of Jews throughout history have been understandable reactions to Jewish beliefs and behavior.”

Whitlock himself previously defended Ye’s tweets denouncing “JEWISH PEOPLE,” writing, “You can't question black entertainers' unhealthy relationship with non-religious Jewish power brokers in Hollywood.” He also hosted a discussion about whether former basketball player and TV analyst Charles Barkley was under the nefarious influence of a Jewish “cabal.”

Beck, Whitlock’s employer, has a long record of promoting antisemitic tropes and conspiracy theories. But he typically responds to criticism on those grounds by stressing that he is a philosemite who supports Israel.

Whitlock’s cozy interview with Jones follows a recent trend of prominent right-wing commentators engaging in unusually explicit antisemitism as high-profile figures detail their grievances with the Jews. Those bigoted outbursts have drawn cheers from white nationalists who are ecstatic at their talking points entering the mainstream right.