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Senator JD Vance

Vance Says Trump 'Salvaged' Obamacare (Which He Tried To Kill)

In an exchange about health care during the vice presidential debate on CBS Tuesday night, Sen. JD Vance claimed that Donald Trump took action to “salvage” the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, when he was president.

But in reality, Trump tried to kill the law that brought health insurance to millions.

Vance: Donald Trump has said that if we allow states to experiment a little bit, on how to cover both the chronically ill but the non-chronically ill, it’s not just a plan, he actually implemented some of these regulations when he was president of the United States.

And I think you could make a really good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along.

In 2017, Trump backed the American Health Care Act, which would have repealed significant portions of Obamacare. According to data compiled by the Congressional Budget Office, if the legislation became law, 24 million people would go uninsured.

The bill passed through the House, which had a Republican majority at the time, and Trump celebrated in the Rose Garden of the White House with congressional leaders. But the bill ultimately failed in the Senate, due to unified opposition from Democrats along with Republican John McCain, Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski.

Under President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, the health care law has been expanded to cover more people, and Harris has said that she will continue to back the law if she is elected president.

Reprinted with permission from Daily Kos.

Vance Claims Trump 'Never Said There Were Very Good People On Both Sides'

Vance Claims Trump 'Never Said There Were Very Good People On Both Sides'

Donald Trump’s vice-presidential running mate J.D. Vance is falsely claiming that as president in 2017, Trump did not make his infamous “very fine people on both sides” remarks after the deadly Charlottesville “Unite the Right” white supremacist neo-Nazi rally. Sen. Vance (R-OH) is also blaming the media for, he says, wrongly informing his views, which once included wondering if Trump could be “America’s Hitler.”

On August 15, 2017, then- President Trump held a press conference at his Trump Tower in Manhattan, just days after the “Unite the Right” rally which took place August 11 through August 12. (Full press conference transcript via Politico.)

During his lengthy remarks, Trump said, “I do think there is blame – yes, I think there is blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either.”

When a reporter told him, “The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville,” Trump appeared to reject that statement.

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

Trump went on to denounce removing statutes of Civil War-era traitors, and to defend the Founders who owned slaves, before stating, “You know what? It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too.”

In an appearance on the right wing Full Send podcast (full video) this week that posted Friday, Sen. Vance said, “I don’t know if you guys remember this. But there was this thing that happened in Charlottesville where a white supremacist killed this girl and, very tragic situation. And the media said Trump stood up for the white supremacist, and there was a time in my life where I would have believed the media, what they said about it, and then you go and read what the transcript of what he actually said. It’s like, wait a second, he actually condemned the white supremacist.”

(Vance’s suggestion that Trump condemned white supremacists is erroneous. During that press conference a reporter asked him specifically, “Why did you wait so long to denounce neo-Nazis?” which kicked off the “both sides” remarks. Trump on August 12 did not specifically condemn white supremacists, on August 14, after nationwide outrage, he did.)

“He never said that there were ‘very good people on both sides.’ What he said is that some of the protesters were good people, not like the white supremacist who murdered this girl. And you realize so much of what the media says about this guy is totally dishonest. I think once you accept that frame of mind, you start to think for yourself a little bit and when I started doing that, I started realizing one, he’s a good president, but two, he’s just not the guy. He’s not the scary person the media makes him out to be.”

Watch the videos above or at this link.

Reprinted with permission from Alternet.

 J.D. Vance

Vance Proves To Be Historically Unpopular Veep Choice

Donald Trump’s vice presidential pick is backfiring on him—big time. Appearing on CNN’s Erin Burnett OutFront Tuesday evening, data analyst Harry Enten dug into the polling and found bad news for Ohio Sen. JD Vance and the GOP. The numbers do not lie: Vance is the least liked running mate in 44 years.

“I have gone all the way back since 1980. He is the first guy immediately following a convention—a VP pick—who actually had a net negative favorable rating, that is underwater,” Enten told Burnett. “The average since 2000 is plus 19 points. JD Vance—making history in the completely wrong way.”

“Frankly, I don’t really understand the pick,” Enten said. “And apparently, neither do the American voters because we take a look at the net favorable rating for JD Vance—that’s the favorable minus unfavorable. It’s in negative net territory. Look at that. Negative 6 points.”

Vice presidential candidates usually enjoy a nice bounce following their party’s convention, and polls reflect the favorable opinions. There’s sort of a “new car smell” shininess to them, thanks to their big introduction on the national stage in all the hoopla of a convention. But as Enten says, “in this case, he’s dragging Trump down.”

Tapping Vance for the Republican ticket was a questionable decision in the first place, Enten points out. He performed far below other GOP candidates in his Senate win two years ago, even among the voters he and Trump most rely on—working-class white men.

“He was the worst performing Republican candidate in 2022 up and down the ballot in the state of Ohio,” Enten said. “He adds nothing there.”

It’s not likely to get better for the Republican ticket as the campaign continues and voters find out a lot more about Vance, who is a relative newcomer to the political scene.

They’ll be seeing things like this People magazine headline at the checkout counter and in their dentist’s waiting room: “J.D. Vance Isn't the Bridge-Building VP That Moderates Wanted: What He's Said About Women, Voting and Project 2025.”

That article includes such gems as:

  • “Vance wants to end abortion, and once called rape and incest exceptions 'inconvenient'”
  • “Vance suggested that people should stay in 'violent' marriages to preserve their kids' happiness”
  • “Vance said he wants to ban pornography, and blamed it for low birth rates”
  • “Vance opposes LGBTQ+ rights and has pushed harmful 'groomer' rhetoric about gay people”
  • “Vance is the VP candidate that Project 2025's leaders wanted”

(By the way, a shout out to People for putting Project 2025, the far-right government blueprint crafted by Trump cronies, out into the mainstream.)

It’s no wonder Trump allies are increasingly nervous about this pick.

Reprinted with permission from Daily Kos.

JD Vance

Vance's Contacts Include Prominent Anti-Semite Who Boasts Of Influencing Him

2024 Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) reportedly keeps close company with far-right activists according to a new report, and they may soon find themselves embedded high up in the federal government if former President Donald Trump returns to power this fall.

On Thursday, tech publication Wired reported on the details of Vance's Venmo account, which is a popular platform used for online payments. Because Venmo automatically sets accounts to be publicly viewable, Wired was able to comb through the profiles of the several hundred people listed as "friends" on the Ohio senator's Venmo.

Many of those are controversial figures tied to the same academic and political establishment Vance has constantly railed against in his public speeches. But others are major figures in extremist political circles.

According to Wired, names in the 2024 VP hopeful's contacts include Stop The Steal organizer Ali Alexander, conservative provocateur James O'Keefe and pro-Trump social media personality Laura Loomer. His profile also lists former Michael Cohen lawyer Lanny Davis, who also represents international mafioso Dmitry Firtash — a high-ranking member of the Russian mob.

"This appears to be his actual personal contacts," Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington vice president Jordan Libowitz told Wired. "[T]he more personal data that is public about someone the more points of pressure or influence there are on that person."

Earlier this week, Andrew Torba — the CEO of far-right social media app Gab — tweeted that Vance was "influenceable" given the people he's surrounded himself with. Gab was thrust into the national spotlight after reports confirmed that the perpetrator of the 2017 Tree of Life Synagogue mass shooting was active on the platform and frequently posted anti-Semitic content.

"We have plenty of people in his orbit. Plenty of our guys can be put into positions of power because he’s there," Torba wrote. "Our focus should be on pulling him as far right as possible by 2028. Long game. Honey, not vinegar."

Torba's comments are particularly revealing, even though he didn't mention any particular names. After his nomination was announced, screenshots emerged of Vance in a Twitter group chat with several teenage "groypers" (the name associated with followers of white supremacist influencer Nick Fuentes).

"Yo Akron Caleb is thirsty," Vance wrote in response to a former George Santos staffer asking for Trump press secretary Karoline Leavitt to follow him back. "Just practicing my cool kid lingo with the simps chat."

Vance's Venmo also shows other "friends" in his contacts including a lobbyist for the Heritage Foundation (the chief organization pushing Project 2025), billionaire Todd Ricketts and Michael Flynn Jr.

Reprinted with permission from Alternet.

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